Mental Damage?

Okay... let me give some background first:

In Sweden, where I live, zoophilia is legal, but not socially accepted. some time ago, random guy wrote a question on an open forum about this topic, and now the internet war is on. Other random guy (who is obviously against the whole thing and want to illegalise it to h*ll) claims that intercourse between animal and human damages the animal mentally, and that zoos cannot (or will not) see if an animal gets sick from what they're doing. so now I want to settle this.

So, my question is; have you ever come upon an animal who is mentally unstable after having sex with a human (with no violence involved of course)? Have any animal you've "played with" changed behaviour afterwards (agressive, nervous, afraid of stuff it usually isn't) or given any other symptoms on mental illness?

//Mistah

Unless that guy knows exactly how was the mind of a dog before having sex with a human being , how can he say that mind has changed and got sick?

I don't know about change of behaviour but it's a fact that some of the dogs sexually involved with human won't mate other dogs anymore they even refuse a bitch in heat or a bitch in heat refuses to mate .

Whether this is true love or mental sickness I can't say

This post has been edited by MoreKnots on Aug 22 2006, 08:39 AM

First of all, I'd like to remove the whole sexual side of this discussion. Having fostered many dogs for various rescue [SPAM], I've seen dogs come into the program that were basket cases, and with a lot of love and trust-building, they became adoptable again.

HOWEVER, I've seen the exact reverse happen, as well. Dogs leave their foster home, and within 6 months of being in their "permanent" home, come right back into the program with all sorts of problems.

So, suffice it to say that from my experience, behavior is 90 percent environment, and how the dog is treated. Yes, sometimes bad breeding comes into play, and you'll get an animal that will be fine for the first few years of its life, and then just go haywire for no apparent reason. And those sad cases usually end up being euthanized; it's the rare lucky ones that end up in a home that is equipped to deal with their "issues".

--Studdog

I would like to ask that fella how he has come to know that. Does he have bad experiences himself?

Question is how you approacht the subject secual intercourse with animal:

1: If the animal wants, and we can have something together without risc or hazard to any of us, let us approach and see if both likes - ant stop right on if something develops diffferent than we ecspected.
And not least search advice before we do anything.

This fella takes care. There is still a risc that something goes wrong, but the risc is small.


2: "I want sex with that dog!" Problem: Her pussy is too small, how do i make it fit me?

This fella makes me worry.

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None of us can claim that we have never, or will never do harm to an animal, or human, come to that. What happedend to your hamburger before it got your hamburger? What about the flies on your car's windshield? By acting responsible in our everydays life we can try to keep damage to ourselves and others on a minimal level. But noone can never say never.

I have never met animals that were negatively changed by sexual intercourse with humans, though I am sure it exists. To this day I have not had accidents that caused animal distress or discomfort. I plan to keep it that way, and hope it does...

There are dogs and cats who feel like abandoned every day when their master goes to work this daily stress could lead to problems some get through at the end but others can't .

I used to give it to our male dog for over a year, no one noticed any differece ;)

I am going to say I am by far no behavioral expert on mercurial dog behavior. But suffice it to say, as a general rule of thumb, as long as sex isn't coereced and mutually enjoyed by both parties, dog don't tend to develop mental aberations as a result of having sex. Animals, simply don't have hang ups about sex that human have trained themselves to have, with funky religion, morality, taboos, social codes and other completely mindless falderall. Aside from direct abuse going on with regard to animals they take it in stride if they want it and can get it regardless if its from a human or a member of their own species.

Mental changes to dogs (as that is what I know most about) could also be positive.
Most male dogs do suffer by living in celibacy, some more visible than others. Positive behaviour changes could involve: They are not so likely to stray, they do not jump on legs, the can concentrate better on their work (duty dogs), and there are som positve health factors in an acticve sex life too.
Allowing an intact male dog a sexual life in other ways than with a human would relust in numbers of unwanted puppies. Who said human-animal sexual relations would always be abusive? Some are, but that is no reason to judge them all as such.

Well, from my experience and what I've seen with others I would say for the most part it's a positive change in the dog's attitude and behavior. One example I can give is a bitch I have currently, she was previously abused before I got her, she was so bad that you couldn't even lift your hand to scratch your nose or something similiar around her without her cringing and running away. Now I know it's not just the sex that's turned her around, but as I am the only one in the household who is active with her, I can tell you that I am her absolutely favorite person here, she sleeps with me, watches at the window when I'm away and looks to me when she is nervous or scared.
With all the other dogs I've been active with or I've seen in meeting others zoos, I would say the changes I've seen, if any, are positive.

I would have to ditto Energydog's post.

I've been out of school for a while, but going back to Zoology 101, with most mammals (for example: a dog) cannot have a thought about a thought. When a dog mates, he's only thinking about sex, during sex, nothing else is gunna be running through his mind.

Before sex: the dog thinks "i want sex"
During sex: the dog thinks A)"this feels good" B)"I dont like this I'm gunna stop"
After sex: the dog thinks A)"that wuz good" B)"wuznt my cup o' tea"

Simple

peace :ph34r: