What Is It To You?, (Long post-technical discussion))

[Knotinmymouth]

Speaking of zoophilia/bestiality of course. Ive heard the
classification run down through, taboo, fetish, affliction, lifestyle,
orientation, all the way to possession by unclean spirits.

Just curious what you folks think of it as? Personally all technical
jargon aside Id say its an orientation, and a very amorphous one at
that.. we see the gamut of men with male animals (that are hetero
towards other people in many cases)to women with female animals. Id
say the attraction is to animals in general oftentimes with the focus
being on one particular species or sex, simply dependant upon the life
experiences and mindset of the individual in question.

In scientific terms they call this a paraphila, which unfortunately is
the classification people who like children are also lumped into, and to whom we are
compared to as we "take advantage of beings that are in our complete
control". That phrase has so many holes in it lets not get too worked
up.. but at the same time what do you all think of all this? Is there
a way to clear up misonceptions about our demographic, do you have
alternate theories? I think alot of this classification has to do with
the fact that as far as test subjects go, as far as these "high brow"
scientific studies into human nature.. the only zoophiles theyve
studied are those who were deviant/unlucky enough to be caught in the
act, or were apprehended for other offenses for whom it came into the light of their
activities after being arrested for said offenses. Honestly, in my
opinion they may as well say Heterosexual people are at risk for perversion, seeing as how many heterosexual people out there have been
incarcerated for that offenses relating to children.

Long story shortened and completely oversimplifed, a paraphilia is
basically a misplacement of a certain feeling or urge, much like
"misplaced anger". I see the credence to aspects of this, but my own
life experiences shoot down some of these theories, as Im not
attracted to children and my activities stemmed from inexplicable
urges that started coming about just before I hit puberty, and existed
sympatrically to my attraction to human woman.

Its funny, on one hand this a huge erotic diversion, a way of life for
many of us... its easy to forget about society, but these are things
we should start addressing as a growing group of individuals (not just
here, but everywhere). Maybe I have an overactive imagination, damn
Vonnegut... but I see a rather dystopian future ahead, especially in
the USA, what we do in the next decade may define whether we're
rounded up and exterminated because we're deemed as "subpar" genetic
material, or even just becuase alot of people think it would make
Jesus smile.On the other hand we may be simply accepted as a quiet,
harmless group of regular people with an extraordinary (and bizarre to
most) orientation. I imagien some shade of grey between the two will be accomplished eventually, but some of the possibilities are rather horrifying when thinking in broad strokes.

[silkythighs]

Don't forget to read the Taboo subjects
thread before replying to this thread. Just a friendly heads up. :)

[Knotinmymouth]

Sorry about that, if necessary maybe a mod can remove this thread? I hope its obvious the subject matter wasnt any sort of attempt to be subversive or an idiot.. just trying to bring up some very relevant concerns Ive developed after reading alot of the contemporary mainstream scientific material available. :huh:

This post has been edited by Knotinmymouth on Jan 16 2008, 05:39 AM

[cowlover3167]

From what I've read it's classified as a "paraphilia not otherwise specified", which means it isn't considered to be serious enough to classify by the panel that writes the DSM. From the little research I've seen psychologists who've studied zoophilia don't consider it to be a threat to society, and treat it like a moderate deviation. I think the only reason it's classified as a paraphilia at all is because it doesn't fall within social norms, not because it represents a problem. The DSM panel is arguing whether to add zoophilia as a listed paraphilia, or to remove it all together. I don't remember when the DSM-V is supposed to be released ( I think it's 2010), but if they remove zoophilia it would make a lot of our lives easier, at least then you wouldn't have to be worried about being forced into some kind of psychological treatment if you got caught or wanted to discuss difficulties with your lifestyle with a therapist. It would be a small step towards tolerance I guess. Of course, if zoophilia gets classified as a specific paraphilia we'll be up the creek without a paddle if we're caught. Even if it's legal in you're area, any region that relies on the DSM would stick you in a treatment program until you got "better".

[dr Kaninov]

For me is a sexual preference, of course, no one wants to say hi! I am as crazy as a rabbid bunny. :lol:

Ok, I believe zoosexuality is a sexual identity because it shares some characteristics of homo/bi/hetero sexuality, such as having a range of activity, as from fully straight, to straight up to 2 tequilas to bi to two gay up to 2 tequilas to fully gay... in our case is humans only, humans up to 2 tequilas, bispecific, zoo up to 2 tequilas, fully zoo
Seconds, it has the same quirks as the before mentioned preferences spectrum, such as liking only K9s, Horses, etc, liking specific breeds, liking specific situations and the list goes even farther than the energizer bunny!
Third, unlike paraphilias, which are things you need to reach orgasm (like dressing like a woman and getting spanked by a sock full of chicken livers) our "object of love" as the psychologysts call that what you love, can love you back, what doesn't happen on paraphilias like doll fetish, or the fixation on latex, or things like that.