Perhaps One Day, Possible theory about bestiality

I was reading an article dealing with sexual abuse when the author, a psychologist wrote the following. The last sentence is very refreshing to read. :D

Animals are not usually considered able to give informed consent in a legal sense (although advocates and some ethologists argue they have the capability to agree and strongly solicit such activity), and partly for this reason, but more usually due to concerns for morality and abuse, bestiality is illegal in many jurisdictions. As animal communication methods and evaluation of animal intelligence and animal sexuality changes, this may also change.

This post has been edited by silkythighs on Dec 22 2007, 06:07 AM

Yes Silky ,becouse we love doing , and were is love, there is hope. Can you imagine a free andliberated siciety where animal sex is not only legal but also encurraged just like on this forum. If all the people would accept the fact that it was done century's before and milleniums ago. And if everyone would realize that noone can realy stop it. I wonder what the worlds smart heads would predict if this happen. Would the world me more peacefull? Well, I deffenitely believe that it would be less agression. Come on lets hear your feelings would it make a better society? Just imagine if every woman would keep an animal that she is attracted to. And the husbands would keep also animals that they like. Would we have to be more nice to each other if we want to gain love or attraction? I'm saying this becouse, for example I would like to have sex with a man, I would have to be very nice to him, and give him the impression that I'm better than his mare, bitch, goat or sheep. Same would be the otherway round, If a woman had several dogs,horse, pony, or whatever,, the guy would have to be real nice to atract that woman. Ok, all of you lets hear it, what do you think ?
cheers,,zennie

Zoophilia or bestiality have existed for thousands of years. There IS bestiality record in even Greek myth! However still little progress in zoos getting better. In a non-zoo pet forum, if you think a dog's penis "cute" rather than "disgusting", you'll be offended and even banned. Nazis over here and there.

But never be desperate. We can get our right one day.

I love Zennies scenario here. I'd have to compete with the stud dog of the house for my wife's attention. That brings to mind some interesting scenario's indeed.

As far as bestiality being accepted, I'm always of the mind to "never say never". But I don't think it will happen in this lifetime. Honestly though, right now it's not accepted, but the very presence of this board is proof that it is at least begrudingly tolerated....and thats a start!

Unfortunatly there is not as many people into zoo as you would like to think ..Sure it has been going on for thousands of years but there is only a small group of people that shares these feelings . It will never be allowed .


Besides that , a woman that preffers pets over there men lovers would be living in card board boxes if they wasn't secured finacially . No paychecks no home . Of course if it were me . I would love to have a female companion who is into k-9 love . But as taboo as it is I'll never find that special woman. :(


I like the idea of bestiality being legal , but I'll never see it in my life time .


Pipe

Id like to think that eventually it would be accepted, but realistically i doubt it ever will.

Things like racism etc have gone on for so long now, and they dont seem to get any better.

Why should this be any different :(

It's not too dissimilar to asking whether an act of oral sex on an un-restrained and aroused male animal is non-consensual. Some people then come back by saying that an animal is not sentient enough to understand consent, but only vegans can really take this line of reasoning without hypocrisy.

I suspect a lot of supposedly rational agnostics and atheists are being intellectually dishonest, because they often seem to use the consent issue in the same way that some people would use religion : as just a justification for being squicked out by an alien sexuality. Some guy masturbating a horse and drinking its semen in a film is permissible, but do the same thing with your mouth and it's abhorrent. Manual collection of animal semen for AI is fine, manual collection of animal semen for fun is non-consensual animal abuse. It just doesn't compute. :thinking:

So I fear whatever happens people will make up new reasons to condemn zoophilia. :(

This post has been edited by Bleakest on Dec 22 2007, 08:10 PM

Hmmmmmm. OK guys. You got a point there, but some of you are partialy wrong.
Dogcocksrule, Don't you know that in Holland bestiality is legal ? is that not a start ?
Laythepipe where do yopu get your information from? The sexual revolution around the globe is increasing in galloping speed, becouse of the internet. And bestiality is included. Some smart heads are predicting that the german national incomme will be from dogtax one day , thats if the dogsex popularity remains. Lol,lol,.
cheers, zennie

It's nice to hear that some professional people are open to future developments in animal studies, but given the general advancements in science and cognitive understandings, that's to be expected. It's only a matter of time before science evolves to the point where devices can be strapped to your head and see all your thoughts and emotions.

Bestiality itself will never be widespread or encouraged, not because of consent or issues with animal intelligence, but because of potential disaster. It is a private action, and chances of widespread cases of abuse would simply be too high. Also, people already complain about pet overpopulation, and widespread support for unaltered pets certainly won't help the situation.

It doesn't matter if bestiality has existed for thousands of years, such a fact is completely irrelevant as far as legality is concerned. Being legal in a handful of countries or states is also of little significance. It may be a start, but it can hardly be seen as a victory towards acceptance on a global scale. Different countries have different social and cultural standards, and won't necessarily share the same views.

Sure, bestiality and zoophilia it will most certainly be recognized in the future, and while perhaps not expressly outlawed, it will at least be tolerated to some extent, provided false claims of abuse can be separated from genuine cases. Interest will still be contained primarily to online communities and message boards scattered across the net.

This post has been edited by ZetterGRD on Dec 22 2007, 11:21 PM

It is good to see that there are those out there with an open mind, but I'm not going to hold my breath hoping that we're ever going to be accepted. I think despite facts, prejudices will always be hard to conquer.

I agree with ZetterGRD. Bestiality, as homosexuality, would be recognized one day, but wouldn't be encouraged. Because it's origined by some non-common thoughts, and can not be spreaded to non-zoo people. Just like it's nearly impossible to make a straight guy gay. But I think there would be less restrict in the future. For example, masturbating (not being mounted) a male dog to release his sex drive might be popular in the future, but still be a secret.

Waiting rus80 for his pessimistive growling.

Given the political climate in the US, I think it unlikely our behavior will ever become legal. Perhaps there will be greater tolerance with greater understanding, but again, history gives us plenty of examples where understanding did not overcome fear, ignorance, and bigotry.

In the U.S.A....no way. Not gonna happen. But remember my friend the internet is world wide. There are plenty of much more tolerant countries out there. Certainly alot more tolerant than the "free" u.s of a. (for those outside the USA who read the above post and went :rolleyes:....try to understand most of us yanks seem to forget there really are other countries out there with ideas different from our own....a forgivable fault I hope.)

I hope someday is treated as just another harmless aspect of human behavior. Doubtfully in my lifetime though. Unfortunately for every credited professional who takes our side there are a handful that dont. I believe a part of the problem is that the only beasts/zoos that have been studied are those deviant enough to get caught, or who have committed other crimes, and during the investigation something indicating bestiality comes into light. Correct me if Im wrong, but Ive read that tendencies bestiality is a red flag for a serial killer profile. Unfortunate about the climate of acceptance, or more regular types may consent to being studied. As it is, we have a long road.

I agree with what zennie says on the human side. But on the other side, I'm not sure if the animals would benefit from a society accepting sexual contact with them. The point is that people like us who do care about the animal in every respect already do it, no matter if it's accepted or not. I do believe that if socially acceptable, it will come to the minds of very strange people to replace an expensive prostitute with another warm, wet hole. Sorry for these words, but I do not believe it's such a good idea. In an ideal world, yeah, but ours is far from ideal.

Prank