Acceptance

We may not be accepted in sociaty today but I hope we will be tolerated. People want to hold on to the idea that bible is the only book on morals. Puritanism is unfortunitly alive and well. As to the fact that animals cannot consent to sex have never attempted having sex with a mare or stallion, if they don't want it they have there ways of saying no. Like kicking you into next week! I have never had sex with an animal that told me no.

Good point
You are right and anyone who can talk with the frount of a critter knows this.
then if everybody is happy go to the back
And
welcome

FYI though
not that you said anything wrong but
religion is against the rules as is politics.

Now
No I do not think we will ever will be excepted, maby we might be egnored but that is it.
We will be long dead before the world gives us a break.

And do not get cought now it is not like the free love '70's any more.

Rus

And this is a duplicate thred
see 4 lines below.

This post has been edited by rus80 on Sep 25 2007, 04:57 PM

I feel I have to say something about this.
Being a gay man, I'm practically used to the fact that society feeds on stereotypes as entertainment. I'm fine with it. And it's the same for zoos, there's always the joke about the guy and the sheep, or maybe that scene from "American Wedding".

Anyway...zoophilia is something very taboo by today's standards. Since the beginning it's always been a human will mate with a human and a human may be friends and develop a bond with an animal, but as for mating with the animals, that isn't right in society. It disgusts people because they've been told to either love animals or not care about them, see them as lower creatures, pets, etc., but never to engage in sexual activity as if they were a human.

I know this sounds rash, but zoophilia should stay indoors and private. We are a community as much as a nudist colony is, but once they leave the colony they're average people on the outside.

By all means, love your pet as much as you want. But as for acceptance, I doubt it will come nor do I expect/want it.

As I have said in many many other posts. I don't ask for everyone to try it.. but I just want them to atleast be neutral with it. They don't have to like it or anything, just be neutral and not bash us for our feelings.

And as for the consent... EXACTLY!!! You can't get much more consent than the male dog mounting you or the female laying down and rolling over, presenting herself..

You.... you are my new best friend.. lol

On some level i almost have to agree with society! Not because they are right or wrong, everyone always has a side. But, lets be honest here! Look online and see what others are looking at... How many people here are a member of some paysite with gigs of movies? How many of those movies show a woman using a dog as a dildo... Or holding him still while she gives him oral sex? How often do you see a man holding a dog on top of a woman, forcing the humping action? If i were outside the lifestyle, i would see just that... FORCE... Its horrid! It actually makes me want to barf!

So in a sense, we cant blame society when the bulk (Not all) of the lifestyle is shown as nothing more then a forced taboo!

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I agree with you there, I don't like the whole dil-dog thing

though it still turns me on >.> I try to avoid it

unassisted humping is my preferance

but it is very true, everyone looking for consent of animals isn't gonna find it until they try it themselves which... isn't gonna happen for most

but I have hope, I feel one day we'll be tolerated much like the gay community, I'm in the works of coming out so to speak, and I think that is really what is going to get people to accept us. Once they know how many of us there are there will be less disgust with it.

i feel the same way

Kitsunekun

Please think long and hard about outting your self..
I am one of the bitterest ones here but beleave me when I say your life will be hell if people find out.
I have been around a long time and have seen much.
You will make an irreversable grave mistake and you will not only indanger your self but your partner and your partner has no real protection under the law.

There are no worse more visious critters than people.

be afraid very afraid of what you will start. Of the person you tell he / she will tell every one they know [and if you tell them to keep it private they will post it in the subway] and of those will be some very hatefull people..


The site here is very disarming but do not be fooled few in the world except this life style enough to tolorate it and see it for the good people in it.

Think long hard
Rus

as far as i,m conserned i,m the only one who has to accept the fact i,m a zoo))

what happened in the barn or bedroom wiht my fur friends/lovers is my business not john Q publics))

i dont wan tit to be that mainstream)

I have a bit of a different slant on this matter than many do.

I think humans exploit other forms of life for any number of reasons. Whether it's for testing products for human use (everything from medicine to mascara), preparing human surgeons to treat gunshot wounds, assist humans in work, sport or play, police work, rescue work, cadaver sniffing, termite detection, drug and bomb detection and so forth. We use their meat and their hides. It has been said that we use everything in a pig but it's oink! And, of course, as pets. What we do with them may leave them dead or disabled. We deliberately infect them with diseases or subject them to psychological stresses just to see if we can cure them or extrapolate their coping mechanisms onto human behavior.

Now, given that we humans sanction the use of "service animals" what's the big deal about enlisting them into sexual service? There are lots of humans who have a great deal of difficulty relating to other humans in a sexual way. Maybe they're unattractive, painfully shy or just have no need for other humans, sexual or otherwise, or they might be disabled (as is my case) or any number of other reasons. Why should such humans be deprived of all sexual contact just because they can't relate sexually with other humans? And if we can train animals to race or jump obstacles or walk or pose a certain way or stand guard duty, well, why the heck not?

There's no good reason why a human shouldn't be able to relate sexually with animals, IMO. I think it all gets down to the proscription of sex for any reason whatsoever except procreation! We know that a bunk reason.

The bible states that man shall not lay down with his animals. The law state that we are not allowed to injure animals or force them to do unnatural acts. If one is to out oneself, be very afraid of what society can and will do to you and your companion.

Please think about this..
From what you have said you have a better reason than most to be in this life style.. Also you will be able to help others here as well.

The forum here is very disarming.. The general public in the real world is interested in seeing people blown up not pleasured.

The real world will be a better place for us if they know as little as possable.

Welcome sorry its late

Rus

We will never be fully accepted. One can be lucky if other people just tolerate it. I've also seen on a few occasions how bad an outing can be. So I am very selective with whom I tell anything. I still consider this a private thing and in addition to that I don't see a reason why I should tell this someone who might be disgusted by it.

I agree completely about the consent thing. I've heard people compare zoophelia to pedophelia, and I gotta say I can't disagree more with that. I think humans rely enough on body language to see the obvious consent in the animal. A dog will and can bite the crap out of you, and as you said, a horse can most definately defend itself. (They can break a wolf's neck with a single kick!)
It's a little insulting when people say that an animal can't even defend itself if it wanted to, I mean come on. . . But still, because humanity is one giant herd of idiots, this is best kept secret except to those we really trust. And forums like this. I really can't see this becoming excepted, hell, homosexuality is hard enough to except for them, and that's with two humans.

HERE HERE PEOPLE TEND TO BE VERY JUDGEMENTAL UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING THEY LIKE TO DO. <_<