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Posted: Aug 12 2007, 12:27 PM
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Whilst surfing the net as you do I came across this article, now I couldn't care less what 26 or 27 is about however, what I did find interesting was how casual he was about the discussion of animal sex.

I thought it might be fun when one of us comes across examples of non-titilating reference to animal sex they post the link inthis thread. We've had other threads making occasional reference to the media and indeed to hopeful norming.

I thought it might make a useful resource if we gathered links to pages which talk about it as a normal activity, without some element of the taboo about it.

What do you guys and girls think?


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Posted: Aug 12 2007, 12:32 PM
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moved to zoophilia
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Posted: Aug 12 2007, 12:50 PM
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Doh!

Thanks Wyld, you are dead rightshould have posted this here in the first place!
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Posted: Aug 12 2007, 02:26 PM
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Interesting article, and fun to read it :) But I don't think we should over-interpret things. This article does not seem to be entiretly serious. Even if people joke around with the thought of having sex with animals it doesn't mean that they would actually do it or permit it in any way.

Sorry if I sound negative, but I just want to be a bit realistic :)
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Posted: Aug 12 2007, 05:38 PM
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I agree, it was an amusing read but definitely not something to be taken seriously. The "Okapi sexy rear-end" joke returns in his other articles, and never appears to be serious. He is a comedian, after all.

What strikes me as most interesting is that he's 40, but I suppose that's because I'm mostly accustomed to people of a younger generation, at least when it comes to jokes about animal sex. I don't watch many comedians, but I can more easily imagine a 25 or 30 year old comedian using such jokes for their shock potential and edginess.

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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 12:13 AM
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I agree. I didnt see it as too serious in nature. Good read though, took up some of my boring day.

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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 02:24 AM
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Yeah, a bit sarcastic. But I have to admit, the okapi were hot, I was eyeying them up when I was at the zoo too. I felt that they were the sexiest of the zoo animals I saw that day. I liked the giraffe too, I took some pics of the females urinating up close. I'd definitely do a giraffe.

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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 02:49 AM
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Hm, very impressive! It's interesting how calm one can be about it.

One lit candle in a dark world makes it so much brighter.
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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 12:29 PM
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I recognise that the article is toungue in cheek and indeed he uses it as humour. What I find interesting is the casual way he has used the subject, much as he would a mother-in-law reference or similar material. Normally when comedians aim for the big taboo stuff they make more of a fuss as they recognise how 'controversial' they are being.

For me I think it is a terribly dim light in a seemingly endless tunnel that would be our journey to openess. Whilst I never expect us to be mainstream, it is another piece of non-sensational context out on the internet. The more the merrier. When you couple it with things like that film released in America earlier this year and that supposed quote from the porn actress. It just shows that society are becoming less shocked by bestiality, which is a good thing.

A long way to go before people actually start campaigning for rights, however I'll take a degree of norming over what we have had so far. Who knows perhaps decriminalisation would be nice!
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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:16 PM
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Mainstream society has in the past, and will in the future, continue to become less intollerant with issues it is increasingly exposed to. As society become desensitised to a particular social issue... In this case (beastiality) desensitisation would occur through having increased access to pictures, clips and stories on sites like this and be further reinforced by the ever increasing volume of people that are willing to talk about the subject and the ever increasing amount of people who admit to participating in the practice, actively or passively.... the issue becomes less and less taboo and moves closer and closer to the boundaries of acceptability.

Examples of the past (no offence to anyone intended) include; Woman getting the vote, same gender unions, swearing, the adult entertainment industry and swinging.
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Posted: Aug 16 2007, 03:58 PM
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One day it might be more commonplace (who knows even socially the thing to do). I dont think ill see it in my lifetime. Maybe in the next one hehe
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Posted: Aug 16 2007, 04:18 PM
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It wont happen. At most, it will be as acceptable as gay and lesbian. Seeing as ignorant people still wont allow marriage between gays and lesbians, I wouldnt hold my breath on seeing zoophiles accepted into society, at least not within the next 100 years. People are too closed minded, and anything outside of their understanding, is wrong and immoral. Sad truth -_-
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Posted: Aug 16 2007, 05:01 PM
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I think it is becoming slowly and gradually more mainstream. There is a difference between something being more prominant in the public consciousness and something being "acceptable." Look at sitcoms like Will & Grace that focus on homosexual main characters. I don't think you could have had something like that even a few years earlier. The more that ideas that are taboo become familiarized, the stigma that comes with them slowly fades away.

Yes, this article is sarcastic/tongue in cheek, but the fact that it even discusses the topics that it does at all is a sign that it is becoming more prominant in the public consciousness. Does that mean someone will read that article and say "Hey, this must be okay"? No, of course not... but it might just put a seed in their brain that will slowly germinate, and later down the road when they hear of beastiality or zoophilia again, it might be less shocking this time. This is how things slowly become normalized in society.

Another example: When The Simpsons debuted, there was a public outcry over the show being too rude/inappropriate. Now, X number of years later the Simpsons seems extremely tame, and now we have South Park which is much more offensive and no one really cares about it. What used to be shocking eventually becomes normal.
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Posted: Aug 16 2007, 05:12 PM
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"In fact I decided that I might have sex with an Okapi even if I didn't have to have sex with one of the animals. I was thinking of giving it a go there and then, but again, didn't want to make my date feel uncomfortable."

Haha :lol:

Okapi though...
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Posted: Aug 16 2007, 05:17 PM
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Maybe I should have chosen my wording better. One day we MIGHT be tolerated, but I dont think we will ever be accepted or liked by most people.
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