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bumblebee68
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 01:21 PM
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do you think people will accept zoophilia like homosexuality sometime? i thought about this because in our times there are less and less taboos and maybe sometime this way of sexuality gets accepted by the people too... otherwise being a zoophile is still described as a disorder of sexual preference by the world health organization in their international classification of diseases... what do you think about?
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 01:35 PM
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I understand it's legal in some places, with provisos against abuse. The problem is the consent issue. No impartial study that I'm aware of has ever proven that animals can consent to sex with humans, and until that happens it's going to be assumed by most people that they can't.

Even if it is decriminalised, the possiblity of animal abuse and difficulty in proving consent would mean a big ol' heap of he-said-she-said cases ending up in court. People just don't want to risk that kind of scenario for the sake of, let's face it, a largely unaccepted fringe group.

Personally, I can see their point when it comes to human males with animal females. With human females, it's a bit different - similar situation to when legally "unconsenting" schoolboys have sex with older female teachers. But again, the double standard would mean instant trouble.

Will it happen? I think it will, but not for a very long time. Probably not in my lifetime.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 02:12 PM
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I dont see it happening ever. Sorry to sound negative. People have issues with multi racial couples not to mention gay couples there is no way that they would ever accept zoo couples even tho they probably see them every day.
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bumblebee68
Posted: Jul 31 2007, 02:32 PM
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hm.. yes.. the way things are going it probably never happens.. as it seems there are too much intolerante people out there.. but i still have hope that it may change in future times maybe not in my lifetime but as i said sometime :mellow:
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 03:05 PM
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I think that the proliferation of the net has been a great tool towards more tolerance of alternate lifestyles. In fact, I think it's been the most important tool yet to come. If you look out there at all the variety of kinks and fetishes, zoo is relatively tame and harmless compared to some of the more wild stuff.

So yeah, maybe one day we will be accepted
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 03:16 PM
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I see what your saying, but doubt it will be accepted. At leats, not in the near future. People today are much to prejudice, close minded, and ignorant of anyone elses life styles. Hell, even homosexuality isn't entirley acceptable today, which is just sad. From what iv'e learned, no single life style is going to be accepted if it's different than the mainstream one. It's true, there are far more things that are being accepted today, but it all depends on how many people are doing it.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 03:25 PM
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Well I have to say that I don't blieve zoo will ever be accepted,in light of several obsticles in that of obvious ones. People today,in general,just can't seem to grasp the idea or understand the special "bond/relationship" a zoo person has with thier animal. Individually some may get it,but as a group it does not register.
I agree with equineslurp,in that the internet has made allowed us the communicate and also shows that compared to many other "kinky-fetishes",zoo is rather "tame". However,unlike the gay lifstyle r even some of the said "Kink" onesit is likely zoo will always have to be a very personal thing,kepted behind the "barn doors". Thank goodness for BF ;)
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:21 PM
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In victorian times, homosexual people were classified as "sexually insane". A lot can change with time.

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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 05:46 PM
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I'm with gpk and the others...I don't think we're ever going to see it as accepted..very recently there weren't too many laws in place against us...now they're starting to pop up all over...I could say why that is in some cases but would make some people here upset.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 06:04 PM
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I think that over time bestiality will become acceptable.

I remember reading a while back about a sex exhibition in Europe, sex in art, or something like that, and there was one painting of a woman crouching by a stallion and looking at his bits. It raised some controversy, but IIRC it wasn't taken out of the exhibition.

Also, there're academics now like Peter Singer (Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University... look him up on wikipedia) who openly support bestiality. Once ideas start getting discussed in academia, it's only a matter of time before it filters down to the "common man" as it were.

Also, a lot of the negative feeling towards bestiality is a throwback to Victorian morals, which are gradually being seen as archaic and being abandoned. If you've ever read Shogun for example, in one place they offer the guy a dog, because he doesn't want a woman or a man. In Japan it was pretty normal for people to shag animals.

So I say, give it time. As long as the trend towards more open government and non-discrimination continues, then sooner or later it'll become an acceptable sexual preference.

This doesn't mean that everyone will be tolerant, but it should get to a point where those who are into bestiality will be protected by law against discrimination.

'Course, I could be wrong, and I don't see it happening anytime soon, but I hope I'm right. :)
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 07:58 PM
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Yes.

Once technology advances to the point where we can almost read animals minds and decide that are indeed capable of consent.

Some people just won't believe someone can consent unless they're of age and can actually say they want it, or have their mind read like above.

Even then, it'll take a long time.



Hope is never lost, though.

Keep fighting.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 08:36 PM
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I don't think zoophilia will ever become quite as accepted in society as homosexuality is even now. As I've stated before in similar threads, I believe that people will become more open-minded as the generations progress. World culture is evolving, and hardened social traditions are starting to break down as people become more open-minded and desiring to express themselves in different ways.

We may become tolerated in society, but I don't think we will ever have our own rights. The best we can hope for is to strike down false charges of animal cruelty and anti-bestiality laws. In time, society will just learn to look the other way when when it comes to zoophilic relationships. They won't want to get involved, but they will acknowledge our existence.

Looking around at the younger generation of people of today, ages 18-25, it's easy to see this generation is much more open-minded than someone of say, 40-50 years of age. People grow up with the standards of society in their own time, while they only watch as it continues to evolve. That is why so many older folks maintain their prejudices against race or sexual preferences, while younger people don't care.

The consent issue will always be a problem until it can be proven with hard observational or scientific facts. Even if that is taken care of, people who choose animals as companions will always be shunned by those who think they have failed in human relationships.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 10:50 PM
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I think it is going the other direction. Within the last few yeas several states that had no laws against zoo sex now have them. Now California is trying to pass a law that all dogs must be neutered. I hope I am wrong, but it is not looking to good at this point. :angry:
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 11:01 PM
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I think eventually it will become almost universally legal (outside of the uber-religious countries) but I dont think it will ever be accepted by all.

I dont understand the loving thing; the idea of having a loving relationship with an animal, but I do fully accept others that do. I dont think the majority will eve accept even my purely sexual relationship.
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Posted: Jul 31 2007, 11:13 PM
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maybe, maybe not.

Like the others said, some people have problems with homosexuality.. and its not even about being conscent or not. its just because it's different from what SHOULD be normal...

Yes, the world has its own evolution, we can tell that homosexuality has been more accepted than it has been 50 years ago? Because religion is not much as important as before...

All im saying is that, not everyone is open minded..
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