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| traped animal |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 06:34 PM
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i havent owned an animal for too long my family hates pets but im moving soon hopefully a house with lots of land ive trained my share of dogs and being lovers with a wolf is my dream. if any one knows where i can find one please post willing to work with abused animals that have taken blood.
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| southflorida |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 06:40 PM
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Beaker's Dad Group: Moderator Group Posts: 31681 Member No.: 81810 Joined: 29-January 05
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:unsure:
ummmm :welcome: moved to faqs :unsure: moved to faqs - yeah :D |
| cheeseyness |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 06:42 PM
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Supreme Being Group: VIP Members Posts: 5181 Member No.: 455363 Joined: 8-March 07
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I know in the papers you can often find wolf/husky pups. They arent full wolf, but they are part wold and highly more accessible, I would guess. Around here(Central CA) I've seen them go for 100-500$. So price is a pretty good range. If that's good enough for you, check your local paper. If not, I wish you luck. Let me know if you find any wolves available. ;)
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| cohort |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 06:42 PM
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S.O.B. Group: VIP Members Posts: 8063 Member No.: 165606 Joined: 25-September 05
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Generally speaking, the domestication of wolves is frowned upon. In the breeding community, "wolf hybrids" were popular & frowned upon all at the same time.
My recommendation would be to NOT seek out a wolf or wolf pup, but to go to your local shelter and rescue one who has been abandoned by people who didn't know what they were doing. Many shelters automatically destroy wolves and wolf hybrids. If you approach them in advance, they might save one for you. Take care. :beer: |
| Sabelle |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 07:10 PM
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Get yourself educated on the pros and cons of wolfdogs before trying. They are not for everybody and can be extremely hard to deal with and highly destructive. Your best bet is to find a wolfdog community on the internet and learn as much as possible about the joys and trials of owning such an animal before deciding if it will be a good fit with your life. Good luck.
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| silkythighs |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 08:28 PM
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Disciple of the board Group: VIP Members Posts: 15307 Member No.: 157459 Joined: 5-September 05
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I'm almost certain that wolves cannot be domesticated. They are not dogs, they're wolves. You may own one, but they will always be wild and therefore unpredictable. Nice fantasy, but reality takes precedence here. :thinking:
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| Vrelok |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 09:22 PM
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I am also quite certain that you may require specific permits to own a wolf. Considering that soem species are endangered, depedning on yoru area you may require a permit or documentation allowing you to own one, so you may want to check up with your local laws first.
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| rus80 |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 09:44 PM
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You are taking on a very hi risk enterprise.
I have worked around a near wolf who was castraited the day his testicles droped. He was not anyway near anything you could bring into the house and if he had neighbors they would have been pissed big time. He was no different than a wild black bear used to feeding from a bird feeder and just as dangerous.. You inless you are an expert in those animals the chance your wolf will come to greaf with you, visitor or a passer by is way to real. Your home insurence will also be a issue as well most likely.. If you are good with alfa dogs and have the room get a German bread GSD. They are far more stable and excelent guard animals. The wolf will get something hurt for sure inless you are 15 miles to your mail box and have already neutrlised your closest neighbors... Rus |
| cheeseyness |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 09:52 PM
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Supreme Being Group: VIP Members Posts: 5181 Member No.: 455363 Joined: 8-March 07
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Ok, found a place where you can buy and look at wolfdog hybrids. A few are lower risk, meaning they don't have much wolf in them. They're still absolutely beautiful though. Take a look! I've been browsing all day. Such lovely animals.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.j...ide%3Dtrue&Ux=0 There are also some sites around on the kind of permits you need and the living conditions you will need to have for these animals. Take a look! It's your most realistic option if you are willing to go to some very far lengths to propperly take care of these animals. |
| Wirehair |
Posted: Apr 8 2007, 10:05 PM
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I agree to the previous authros that wolves wolf hybrids are only for experts. Real experts, not only one who read a little around on the net.
But there are also health issues. Some yars ago there was an epedimy among saarloswolfhonds in Holland, they died form a quite harmless dog infection, that all other domesticated dogs could handle with their own immune system without problems. A veterinarian who has to anaesthetizize a wolf/hybrid (and he would need to in many relations, where he would not need with a domesticated dog) would kill the wolf/hybrid if he does nok know exactly how to anaesthetisize these animals. They are extremely sensitive towards such medicaments. Not any veterinarian can handle such animals. Have you ever tried to handle such an animal on your own? I have - and found they are beautiful creatures to look at, fascinating, but that I would not be the one to have such a dog. They are pack animals, you can't leave a wolf/hybrid home when you go to work. |
| KnottyBusiness |
Posted: Apr 9 2007, 12:38 AM
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Not true, I had a full timber wolf. He passed away, But was one of the most calm and obedient animals one could ask for. Very intelligent, It was as if he understood you. They need to see you as the alpha, you must not let the wolves think they are higher in rank than you. Once this happens, They will take advantage of the situation and learn to manipulate you. Wolves are VERY intelligent, I'd suggest reading up on complex dog training before even considering getting a wolf, or even a hybrid. Full wolves will be a lot more tame than hybrids, because hybrids are known to get "confused" by their instincts. |
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| Dignity |
Posted: Apr 9 2007, 12:52 AM
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As mentioned above there is a reason dogs are pets and wolves are not.
There are exceptions, but they are few and far inbetween. In many plcaes it is illegal to own a wolf or wolf hybrid. Why not a Husky or Mal? They have the wolf like apperhence but are more trustworthy and safe. |
| Squirllybird |
Posted: Apr 9 2007, 01:47 AM
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In Alaska, full wolf is not allowed. A wolf mix must be spayed or neutered.
Of course in Alaska many of us do not have close neighbors nor do we stick to laws. For example, I have a wolf bitch(rather she has me). I raised her from about four weeks old after I found her mother killed by a trigger happy hunter. The A-hole also shot two other pups. I always let her run free. For the first three years, she was with me constantly. Then she started to drift away. She is mostly wild now yet comes back to visit about once a month. She is now six years old and is one beautiful animal. This post has been edited by Squirllybird on Apr 9 2007, 01:51 AM |
| Sabelle |
Posted: Apr 9 2007, 01:55 AM
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I tend to think of hybrids as either miserable wolves, or untameable dogs...usually both at the same time. By and large they have the wolf instincts, but they lack fear of humans. Not a good combo at all. I know there are people who swear by wolf hybrids, but I think one must be very vigilant and dedicated to even attempt to have such an animal. YMMV, of course. |
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| silkythighs |
Posted: Apr 9 2007, 03:05 AM
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Disciple of the board Group: VIP Members Posts: 15307 Member No.: 157459 Joined: 5-September 05
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I found this on the net: Sounds like sound advise to me.
Wolves and Wolf-Dogs as Pets We do not recommend that the Average Pet Owner keep a predatory carnivore as a pet, whether it's a wolf, a lion, a bear (or crocodile) -- even if they have been socialized or tamed for generations. We also do not recommend the average pet owner keep a wolf-dog as a pet. Both wolves and wolf-dogs require expert care and facilities and the AVERAGE PET OWNER is unable to provide either. Wolves and wolf-dogs are not marauding killers, they do not carry children off into the forest and murder them, and they do not disguise themselves as Grandma and hide under the bed covers. But with the average pet owner they can be socially shy, aggressive, and "unpredictable" -- this last is generally due to ignorance on the part of the owner on the differences between wolf behavior and dog behavior. Many people exaggerate the wolf-content of their wolf-dogs in a sort of macho arrogance. Unethical breeders often flat-out lie about wolf-content to boost the price of their "cubs." However, there are many people who have had exactly the opposite experience. Their animals were pets from the beginning, carefully bred for temperament, well socialized, obedience trained, and housed in special facilities -- not your average neighborhood, 4', chain-link, yard fence. These owners researched wolf behavior, prepared their containment facility, and were aware that they had an animal on their place that required careful handling. They are NOT the Average Pet Owner. They do not leave children alone with their pets, and they do not allow them to rampage through the neighborhood trash cans and cat population -- good policy for any pet owner. |
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