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| BeastForum.com > Zoophilia > I Saw A Video Here That Made Me Think Twice |
| Posted by: justhavingfun Dec 7 2006, 07:13 PM |
| I saw a video where a guy was having sex with his female dog and it disturbed me and I haven't watched a video since. In the video, the dog started to make the crying sound dogs make and then after a while the dog tried to move away and was yelping. It's one thing for human sex for a woman to moan in pleasure and some pain, but I can't bear to hear a dog crying and trying to get away but unable to. I'm sure there some people here who do have sex with animals who feel the same way. |
| Posted by: wyldfyre67 Dec 7 2006, 07:28 PM |
| you will notice ... that above and to the right of every post is a box that says "report".. If you feel this dog was being hurt... or that the post violates the rules(this includes the rules .. DO NOT POST... 5.1.3 post anything depicting harm to people or animals ie: blood death vomit etc. 5.1.4 post anything depicting rape or involunentary bondage) please take the time to report this... the admins will review the post ... The success of this forum is on all of us... and MODs cant be everywhere at once... it takes members like you to report violations to help us police this forum |
| Posted by: satyrboy Dec 7 2006, 07:30 PM |
| I think you're referring to http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-93244.html video of him and his lab bitch. I was also disturbed by it at first, but then others pointed out that the whining didn't match the actions of the dog, and probably came from a different dog off-camera - when the dog is whining, the bitch in question is just looking around and licking her lips. It would be nice to get zoomaniaco to confirm this, though. |
| Posted by: justhavingfun Dec 8 2006, 01:38 AM | ||
Yeah that is the video. But I don't agree with the different dog whining off camera. |
| Posted by: wolfie29 Dec 8 2006, 01:51 AM |
| The noise was coming from another dog somewhere off camera. The fact that the dog moved around only indicates that she either wanted to get a view or simply wished to change positions. Human females quite often do both during sex, especially when "taken" from behind (I am sure that there is not much to look at for stimulation when you are on your hands and knees and facing a wall)! After over two decades with female dogs I think that I can safely say that it is simply not possible to force a bitch into sex if she is not in the mood and the idea of rape among wolves in the wild probably ended after the first hard bite on the male wolf's private part(s) . Any female dog large enough to safely handle a human male sexually is also large enough to badly maul you if she felt like it. Even medium sized dogs are powerful animals and could cause severe injuries very quickly. Dog bites are extremely painful, just ask anyone who has REALLY been bitten by an angry dog. It is lucky for us humans that dogs are our friends, companions and lovers and they treat us with a love, devotion and respect that most of us do not even deserve. |
| Posted by: Gryph Dec 8 2006, 08:22 AM | ||||||
Eh, it sounds and looks like there is just another dog in a kennel/crate in the same room. You can easily tell this when the female's face is in front of the camera, kinda hard to whine/bark/yap when she is licking her lips. However, because it is somewhat hard to tell, especially if the part where the female's face is in front of the camera was cut, I would have to agree it is inappropriate, but again, that is what the report button is for.
This may be true, but to say all dogs would react this way to abuse/rape is not accurate, especially if retaliation was punished. The worst part is the only way the dog will get out of the situation is if the owner gives it up or someone else noticies the dog's most likely timid/fearful behavior and reports it. In either case, unless a new owner was found the dog would be killed. And the whole situation would reflect negatively on zoophilia altogether since people love citing examples of abuse/torture when making a case against zoophilia. |
| Posted by: Cetacean Dec 8 2006, 02:54 PM |
| I find it hard to judge. The whining does make it really uncomfortable to watch though, even if it's an other dog, the sound makes it an unpleasant video. If the dog is trying to get away or not I also find difficult to tell. I guess I'm undecided  I don't think giving it the benefit of the doubt would be the best thing to do though. No offense to zoomaniaco, perhaps the bitch did enjoy it a lot and it just didn't come out well in the video, but I think it's not something to be gambled with. |
| Posted by: puppy_girl Dec 8 2006, 10:50 PM |
| licking of the lips is often a sign that the dog is not fully comfortable in a situation |
| Posted by: James634 Dec 8 2006, 11:42 PM | ||
 hmph...... never heard tht before |
| Posted by: David J. Bailey Dec 9 2006, 12:43 AM |
| Still though, who would upload that anyway? I mean, I can understand the home-made unprofesional aspect of these ameture movies but christ - the poster could have at least 'rescheduled' his recording - or perchance edited the disturbing aspects of the audio. That's just what I would have done. I'm not quick to judge people for their actions, but there are other elements besides the crying that I find disturbing about this video. The dog (in the background) was crying for some reason - chances are there just wasn't anything the poster could have done about it (if there was, maybe he would've stopped the video or do something about it). I guess you can't always help those that needed. However, he continued to have sex with his bitch. Thats like...having sex whilst hearing a woman crying in pain just outside of an open door - it's just hard to keep a hard-on through that. I dunno, it's little things like this that will kind of give some zoos a bad name in my opinion - it implies that we're all so sex hungry that we have this sadistic ability to discard all emotion from our 'love' making experiences and just reap sexual gratification from animals. Once again, I don't like judging people that I don't know, but things just don't add up correctly sometimes, it's weird... You could say that because of the taboo subject, Beast Forum will attract all sorts of people whom can only express their zoo attraction to others on this website - people ranging from individuals who truely love animals to those who are only interested in easy or otherwise emotionless sexual gratification. Maybe not, but when you're watching a beast movie and you hear that kind of audio in the background, it's anything but sexually stimulating - at least to me anyway. I dunno, maybe I'm just weird like that. |
| Posted by: justhavingfun Dec 9 2006, 01:08 AM | ||
That is a valid point. |
| Posted by: Miss Rabbit Dec 9 2006, 01:12 AM |
| I know what you mean. I always been very aroused to the thought of a human male mating with a female dog but when I watched this, it disturbed me too. The sounds clearly weren't from the bitch but she did move as if she wanted to get away and that turned me off completely. I know how it feels to be raped and trying to get away but forced to stay so that actually bought back some bad memories. I hope she is ok and I wish the poster will respond and explain himself. |
| Posted by: kitaboi19 Dec 9 2006, 03:05 AM |
| Bump! C'mon zoomaniaco, wutz goin on w/ ur dog?  peace |
| Posted by: Blue Cat Dec 9 2006, 07:02 AM | ||
This is a point that I find myself stressing more than I'd like to: That I distinguish between people that honestly have love for an animal, people that love anything they find raunchy and repulsive, and people that would just as soon hump an empty Gatorade bottle as they would their dog. Needless to say, it's only the first group that I respect, but it's likely the latter two that issue the majority of our requests. I typically don't watch videos with the sound on (not until I find a better set of headphones), so at first glance, I didn't find anything wrong with the video. On the other hand, regardless of the situation, zoophilia is still a touchy enough subject that I think Zoomaniaco should have thought twice before sharing it. Though I'm sure it was another dog off camera, I think he should have looked at that video himself and realized what could potentially be perceived by it. Keep in mind that, along with the people this website was designed for, any alternative lifestyle, especially one of a sexual nature, also inevitably attracts the attention of people will nothing but ill will for the people that post there. Half the people that have visited this website have already dismissed us as perverts that should be lined up against a wall and shot just by looking at our front page; we really should be careful not to do anything that could bring the other half to the same conclusion. |
| Posted by: wyldfyre67 Dec 9 2006, 09:03 AM |
| I havent had a chance to see this movie yet.. but I think I am going to have to now.. only cant till I have a bit of privacy.. but I felt I needed to comment... I have a movie... and when I made the movie I locked MY dog in the bedroom so she wouldnt jump around and distract my friends dog... In my movie, you can here her whining and whimpering cuz she wants to be out in all the fun... She wasnt being abused ... Have any of you thought that the dog that is whining in the background is just wanting to get in and not be alone on the other side of the door ... or maybe he/she is in a kennel for the same reason I locked my dog in a room... so he/she wouldnt be a distraction... apparantly many here feel that it wasnt the dog in the video that was in stress ... only the dog in the background.. and if this is the case... why should anyone have to answer to anyone else... and a dog will lick his/her lips for many reasons... not only cuz they are in stress... |
| Posted by: southflorida Dec 9 2006, 04:38 PM |
the thread has been viewed by the mod team -errr me  it is CLEARLY not the bitch engaging in the action yelping - and there is NO indication concerning body language that she isn't enjoying the engagement... you are welcome to your opinion - and you are welcome to express that opinion - HERE but NOT in the posters thread where you are interrupting the posters contribution - once again you are welcome to discuss it HERE - DO NOT INTERRUPT THE ORIGINAL THREAD - thanXies |
| Posted by: justhavingfun Dec 9 2006, 06:17 PM |
| That's why I didn't post in that guy's topic. |
| Posted by: MoreKnots Dec 10 2006, 01:02 PM | ||
I actually thought something like this that's why I was waiting any more evidence of mistreatment before posting here , that dog might even wanted badly do go outside to catch some cat or need his walk , we don't know that dog the poster does. Anyway that clip could be used against us since we can understand that it's not the bitch the one whining but any other people may not |
| Posted by: Särx Dec 10 2006, 10:49 PM |
| I agree with the majority here that it's not the featured bitch... (plus my own dog is the type to whine and cry if he hears us in a room he can't get into, et...) Also, the licking of the lips and nose is what's called a "calming signal" in dogs (there are many different gestures they make, subtly, for the same reason, such as squeezing the eyes shut, turning to the side, yawning, laying down, and walking in slow-motion or in a wide arch). They do it when they see something, either looking at them or coming towards them, that they are uncomfortable about, the number one culpret being cameras. This is why there are a lot of dog pics where hte dog has their tongue sticking out... Many dogs are not sure about the way a camera looks at them.  But yeah, it's not usually coupled with whining, so... |
| Posted by: deerhunter Dec 10 2006, 11:30 PM |
| I just viewed the clip and find absolutely nothing wrong with the treatment of the dog.. Yes it was definatelly another dog whineing and yelping and if you notice the bitch in question made no, What you're calling negstive actions untill the other dog yelped, And only then in reaction to the yelp, not the action of her sutor.. I don't know how many of you have witnessed a bitch in heat being persued by a pack of horny males but those of you who have will rember what the bitches reaction was when a dog not of her chooseing would try to mount her.. For those of you who havent, she will turn abruptly growling and attack the sutor nipping at him as a display of her dissatisfaction in his action.. I saw no indication of this here.. The other dog was not being harmed either, he was only expressing his jealousy of not being the one who was serviceing the bitch.. |
| Posted by: southflorida Dec 12 2006, 09:54 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Cetacean Dec 16 2006, 11:59 PM |
| Well, just not to make a new thread I'll use this one for a second clip. http://www.beastforum.com/showtopic-93191.html The description seemed too good to be true and I suppose it was. The video kind of shocked me even, the animal didn't seem to enjoy it, especially the rather frantic move he makes at one point where the guy gets on top so to speak. |
| Posted by: deerhunter Dec 17 2006, 12:44 AM | ||
When you see a 1/2 glass of watter do you see it as being 1/2 empty of 1/2 full??Had the Deer not moved would you have commented that he must have been druged??? Did you see the clip of this same series that I posted where the Deer mounted tha Man both analy and oraly??? |
| Posted by: Cetacean Dec 17 2006, 12:50 PM |
| In all honesty, I have not - I'll have a look for them. Still though, that says little about this clip. About drugs - your words, not mine. I'm not going to speculate about "what if". Anyway, I use the word "seem", I am not saying that the animal was abused but it didn't look fun for the animal from what I saw - I suppose I'd just like to hear some good reasoning why the deer does enjoy this. |
| Posted by: southflorida Dec 18 2006, 12:32 AM |
well http://www.beastforum.com/index.php?showtopic=88803&hl=deer to see the clip - AND NOTE that the deer is repeatedly and gently attempting to give the human males genetals oral attention - is is UNDOUBTEDLY not only consentual but the deer is quite quite enthused  |
| Posted by: Hypaxux Dec 19 2006, 08:52 AM |
Actually, that was me yelping since it wasn't me getting to service her.  After being quite 'enchanted' by the pair, it seems obvious to me that the unseen dog was only peeved at being excluded form the action. A very nice clip IMHO. |
| Posted by: CliffordTheBigRedDogDick Dec 21 2006, 03:21 AM |
| My question would be: What does zoomaniaco have to say about this apparently controversial matter? Having viewed the clip myself, I did not see anything out of the ordinary or anything that would constitute abuse. However, there have been several who disagree with that finding. Has anyone contacted zoomaniaco directly via private instant message for feedback? Would that be inappropriate? |
| Posted by: KnottLust Dec 26 2006, 10:56 AM |
| I don't have much experience with females. But, I can tell you that after watching it. It's a male dog you hear whining. The female is likely in heat and he can smell her. But, it's clearly not the female dog making all the fuss. Love Knots to all, KnottLust. |
| Posted by: Särx Dec 26 2006, 05:38 PM |
Hey Knottlust, now that you mention it, it does sound like the frustrated whining of a male who can't get to a bitch in heat... I really did try to block that sound out of my mind *shudder* not fun when you have ot listen to that for at least 2 weeks straight.  |
| Posted by: -Blade- Dec 28 2006, 02:19 PM |
| I felt really bad when I watched to movie because I tought the dog was being raped. Seeing it move and making unhappy noises. But after hearing all the explanations of the proffesionals I'm satisfied |
| Posted by: moparmindy Jan 1 2007, 12:37 AM |
| sounds like its another dog not the one in action like maby its in a cage cause the one in action keeps looking behinde her like my girls do if one yells all of them are there to see why thats my opinyon |
| Posted by: rorancrystalwolf Jan 1 2007, 05:30 AM |
| I saw that video and I thought the same thing but I watched it a few more times to make sure I wansn't mistaken and I concluded that it was another female not the one the video was focusing on. |